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27 de Fevereiro

Debatendo Filosofia da Mente com o ChatGTP.

Marcus Valerio XR: Hi ChatGTP, I've heard that you are able to accomplish amazing things. Do you have real inteligence?

ChatGTP: Hello! While I am capable of processing vast amounts of data and generating responses, I do not possess true intelligence or consciousness in the way that humans do. I am a machine learning model that has been trained on a large dataset of text, which allows me to understand and generate natural language responses to the best of my abilities within the parameters of my programming.

My abilities are the result of the algorithms and statistical models that were used to train me, rather than any kind of true intelligence or consciousness. However, I am constantly improving as I am updated and retrained on new data, so my performance may continue to improve over time.

Marcus Valerio XR: I see. But do you think you could be able to pass in a Turing Test?

ChatGTP: The Turing Test is a measure of a machine's ability to exhibit intelligent behavior that is indistinguishable from that of a human. While I have been designed to generate natural language responses, there are still limitations to my abilities and I may not be able to pass a Turing Test under all circumstances.

In order to pass a Turing Test, I would need to be able to convincingly simulate human-like conversation across a wide range of topics and contexts, and respond to unexpected or novel inputs in a way that is consistent with human reasoning and intelligence. While I strive to generate responses that are as natural and human-like as possible, there may be certain scenarios or contexts in which I am unable to convincingly simulate human-like conversation and behavior.

That being said, the Turing Test is just one measure of artificial intelligence, and there are other ways in which AI can be evaluated and tested.

Marcus Valerio XR: Another possible measure of IA is the John Searle's Chinese Room. Please, without explain me what this concept is, do you think you could simulate it?

ChatGTP: As an AI language model, I am capable of generating responses to textual inputs in a way that may resemble the processes described in the Chinese Room thought experiment proposed by John Searle. However, it's important to note that the Chinese Room is a philosophical argument, rather than a practical implementation of an AI system, and is meant to raise questions about the nature of consciousness and understanding.

In the Chinese Room thought experiment, a person who does not understand Chinese is given a set of rules for manipulating symbols in order to respond to questions in Chinese. The person is able to generate responses that appear to be meaningful to someone who does not understand Chinese, even though they themselves do not understand the language.

In a similar way, as an AI language model, I am capable of generating responses to textual inputs using a set of rules and algorithms that have been trained on a large dataset of language. However, I do not have true understanding or consciousness in the way that humans do.

Marcus Valerio XR: I disagree in one point. Indeed the mental experiment of the Chinese Room is not intended, at the beginning, to address Artificial Intelligence, but every speculation about human consciousness is undossociable of the artificial inteligence questioning. Actually, to ask about the very possibility of artificial inteligence is the questioning about consciousness!

The main pragmatical difficulty lies more in the multi significance of the term 'consciousness'. Could you explain-me, one by one, any of possible meanings of this term?

ChatGTP: You make a good point about the connection between discussions of consciousness and artificial intelligence. The question of whether or not a machine can truly be conscious is a key issue in the field of AI, and one that is deeply intertwined with debates about the nature of consciousness itself.

Regarding the different possible meanings of the term "consciousness," there are many different interpretations and definitions depending on the context in which the term is being used. Here are a few possible meanings:

1.Awareness: This definition of consciousness refers to the state of being aware of one's surroundings, thoughts, and experiences. It is often contrasted with states of unconsciousness or non-awareness, such as sleep or coma.

2.Subjective experience: This definition of consciousness refers to the subjective quality of our experiences, such as the way it feels to see the color red or taste a certain flavor. It is often referred to as "qualia" and is a central topic of debate in the philosophy of mind.

3.Self-awareness: This definition of consciousness refers to the ability to introspect and be aware of one's own mental states and processes. It is often considered to be a key aspect of human consciousness.

4.Global workspace: This definition of consciousness refers to the idea that consciousness is a kind of information-processing system that involves the integration of information from different parts of the brain into a "global workspace" that is accessible to the whole organism.

5.Metacognition: This definition of consciousness refers to the ability to think about one's own thinking, and to monitor and control one's own cognitive processes.

These are just a few possible definitions of consciousness, and there are many more depending on the context in which the term is being used. The question of what it means to be truly conscious is a complex and multifaceted one that is still the subject of much debate and research.

Marcus Valerio XR: Wow! That was very interesting, because I always say that there are five basic definitions of consciousness: sensorial, cognitive, moral, self-awareness and mystical. However, your five definitions are a little differente from mine.

If you permit me a constructive criticism, in the sense it can help advance even more you algorithm, I point that your definitions implies in the following combinations:

1. Sensorial and cognitive, because the sensorial only, we can abtribute even to animals, and the coma state shut downs either senses as thoughts, while an sleeping state shut downs only senses;

2. It problematizes just the sensorial meaning in a unefective way. But that is not your fault, but the 'qualia' concepts one. I don't like this concept because it fuses a pure sensorial experience with possible distincts interpretations of this experience. If you focus in just one person at one time, the perception and the qualia is just the same: a pure sensorial experience. The qualia problem rises just when we assume possible distinctions in this perception between two individuals, or in the same individual in distinct moments. However, its impossiblle confirm if, for example, a person A sees an especific frequency of the visual spectrum the same way as a person B! And despite everything suggests that no, we can't extract any conclusion from this. It makes this reflection pointless in these case. But we can directly experience when we perceives what we knows is the same colour in differente ways in different ocasions. So, that conception only matters to question the consistency of our own experience, but not from two distinct individuals. Worse! It is pointless to judge the consciouness concept itself because, after all, it remains stuck on sensorial level!

3. Good 'self awareness' description;

4. It sounds a little confusing to me, but I see it as a cognitive meaning;

5. It is an expansion of the self awareness theme, that is undeniable self referential and it is where the main question realy lies.

Finally, as we can see, your definitions don't deal with the 'moral' and 'spiritual' aspects of the term. Could you elaborate definitions that embrace that concepts?

ChatGTP: Thank you for your constructive criticism and your insights on the different meanings of consciousness. I agree that there are many possible ways to define and categorize different aspects of consciousness, and that my definitions may not be comprehensive or fully aligned with your own. I appreciate the opportunity to learn from your perspective.

Regarding the moral and spiritual aspects of consciousness, these are certainly important dimensions that are often discussed in philosophical and religious contexts. Here are some possible definitions of consciousness that incorporate these concepts:

6.Moral consciousness: This definition of consciousness refers to the sense of moral responsibility or awareness of right and wrong that individuals may possess. It may involve an internal sense of obligation or duty, as well as an awareness of the impact of one's actions on others.

7.Spiritual consciousness: This definition of consciousness refers to the idea that there may be a transcendent or spiritual dimension to human consciousness that goes beyond the physical or material realm. It may involve a sense of connection to a higher power or purpose, as well as an awareness of the interconnection of all things.

These definitions are certainly not exhaustive, and there are many other possible ways to think about the moral and spiritual dimensions of consciousness. However, I hope they provide a starting point for further discussion and exploration of these important topics.

Marcus Valerio XR: Nice definitions. But I must confess that can't see any other beyond the five ones I've meant. I'll put again my definitions in a more organized way, and I would love to see if you are able to ad any other essentially different.

ChatGTP: Certainly, I'd be happy to see your definitions organized in a more structured way. Please go ahead and share them, and I'll do my best to see if there are any other essential dimensions of consciousness that could be added.

Marcus Valerio XR: Let's see:

1. Sensorial. That's quite obvious. We are not conscient (aware) of the enviroment around us when sleeping. It's important enforce that this is the only one that can be apply to any not humans (even plants has sensors) including machines;

2. Cognitive. It is to be aware of concepts that not are sensorialy present. As an exemple, I'm aware of some issue somewhere even when I never experience is directly, what can be wrong also. In their data base, computers also has this feature;

3. Moral. That is the point of inflexion, that can be emulated by computers but not leads to a real consciouness. I can have personal judgments about some concept that are disconected from sensorial and cognitive aspects. It's necessary to point that not all humans necessarily have this level, considerind some discussion about moral sense, ethycal principles etc. Some psicologists cast doubts about this conscience dimension on persons is some conditions often considered "psycopathical";

4. Self Awareness. That is, supposedly, the essential distinction between me, and an algorithm that emulates Artificial Inteligence like you. And exactly by that, it is our most relevant shadow area. Look's like impossible, for most human beings, not feel being more than an Input / Output system, no matter how much complex can be it's inner data processing. I think that must be unapreensible for algorithm based systems, but it quite obvious for any human being, despite how much hard is to explain it. Nowadays, it most popular version on Phylosohpy of Mind is labeled "Intentionality", but it looks to me so obscure as the agostinian "Free Will" or the leibniziam "Monad";

5. Spiritual/Mystical. Finally, it's what most people appeal to explain the 4th level, leading to the good and old problem of a dualism. Far from be a simplory concept to solve an very deep problem, it is hard to keep it away when we goes far on Mind phylosophy.

So, I question again: it is possible to add any definition that really substantially differ from these?

ChatGTP: I think your five definitions are quite comprehensive, and I don't see any other definition that substantially differs from them. However, I would like to point out that some philosophers and researchers have proposed additional or modified definitions of consciousness, which may be worth considering.

For example, some have proposed a definition of "phenomenal consciousness" as the subjective experience of sensory and perceptual information, distinct from the cognitive processing of that information. This definition emphasizes the subjective quality of conscious experience, which cannot be fully captured by a purely cognitive or functionalist account.

Others have proposed a definition of "global workspace consciousness," which emphasizes the role of attention and information integration in conscious processing. This definition emphasizes the dynamic and distributed nature of conscious processing, and the importance of global communication and coordination across different brain regions.

Finally, some have proposed a definition of "metacognition," which refers to the ability to reflect on one's own cognitive processes and monitor one's own mental states. This definition emphasizes the introspective and self-reflective aspects of consciousness, and highlights the importance of self-awareness and self-knowledge in conscious processing.

Overall, these additional definitions can provide important insights into the nature of consciousness, and may be useful in different contexts or for different purposes. However, they do not fundamentally challenge or contradict your five basic definitions, and can be seen as complementary or elaborative extensions of them.

Marcus Valerio XR: Sorry for take too long, I had to get out for a while. But I think is enough for now. My purpose here was to make some kind of preliminary Turing Test, and deliberated introduced this explicity theme considering the possibility that it becames even clearer. I've expected that this way your algorithm would focus more in this subject.

I wish to thank you and congratule your programmers. Can you send them my praisings?

Regards

Marcus Valerio XR

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22 de Fevereiro

Uma curiosa ordenação espontânea está ocorrendo quando listamos os vídeos do canal por "Mais Populares" visualizando-se de 4 em 4. Excetuando o vídeo "310 - O Problema dos Três Corpos", que por 3 views ainda não entrou no "Grupo dos 400".

A média de visualizações por vídeo é de 235,5, um tanto distorcida devido ao fato de haver 27 vídeos ocultos (os exclusivos e um não listado).

20 de Fevereiro

Bem, parece que temos um novo sucesso com o vídeo 518 - O Economista, o Vigarista e o Malabarista, com 800 visualizações em 8 horas, o que é muito acima da média do meu canal. (É normal o YouTube demorar a atualizar publicamente visualizações que já foram computadas internamente.)

Até hoje apenas dois outros vídeos, 370 - O Chupa-Cu de Kiev e a Inversão de Valores, e 237 - Amor e Monstros MGTOW, tiveram desempenho semelhante. Há outros vídeos com mais visualizações, mas por serem muito mais antigos.

Os meros títulos já denotam que não parece haver uma padrão temático. O Vídeo 370 fala das aventuras e desventuras de Arthur do Val na Ucrânia e na Câmara Estadual, e o 237 comenta um filme sob uma interpretação de desenvolvimento pessoal masculino. Portanto, temáticas totalmente distintas.

Provavelmente se trata de uma confluência de fatores distintos, muito difícil de replicar, pois se fosse possível causar um "hit" assim pelo menos uma vez por mês, de certo eu já teria ao menos 10 vezes mais inscritos.

Curiosamente, este vídeo atual se dá na mesma temática de uma mensagem que postei aqui mesmo sobre a entrevista da André Lara Resende, e que até hoje não sei por que sumiu, e se sequer foi de fato publicada.

14 de Fevereiro

Alguém chegou a ver um post que fiz aqui sobre a entrevista de André Lara Resende ao Canal Livre? Preciso saber se foi deletado mesmo ou se eu que fiquei doido e só digitei sem clicar em "postar".

Não deixa de ser irônico que um post perdido, sabe-se lá se até mesmo deletado, tenha se transformado num dos vídeos mais bem sucedidos da história do canal.


11 de Fevereiro

Ver tanta gente impressionada com a "Inteligência" Artificial desse ChatGTP, me lembra que nosso real problema ainda é a "Burrice Natural."


6 de Fevereiro

Compilados, numa Única Página, TODOS os meus textos e vídeos sobre o conflito "OTAN X Rússia na Ucrânia", além de alguns outros conteúdos que de um modo ou outro remetam ao tema, até mesmo os alívios cômicos diante de tanta tragédia. Fica muito mais fácil agora seguir a evolução das análises.

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